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• Porn’s Problem with Performer Names 8/27/2021 1:54:15 PM
  
  Flash wrote: Jordan1 wrote: I remember in elementary school getting into debates with other kids that believed “wrestling” is real. Okay, this is going to WN&N at this time, where it should have gone ages ago. By moving the thread, you’ve proven yourself to be infantile because I refused to be dragged into your bullshit. You said you weren't going to post in my thread any longer, but lo and behold, you repeatedly did, even after I said I didn't want to hear what you had to say any longer after the abusive statement you made. You and a few others continually pick excerpts out of something I say so it loses its context, then make disparaging remarks about the out-of-context quote. You obviously don’t have the acumen to be a mod. Some of yo...

• Porn’s Problem with Performer Names 8/25/2021 1:51:37 PM
  
  What some of you aren’t understanding is that my point is the performer name issue is totally out of control and doesn’t take much to fix it if the right people are willing to do so, and there’s nothing wrong with rules being set up to curb it. How in the world is a performer having 15 names acceptable? I give examples that come to mind as I’m typing the post to show the difference between something that makes sense and something that doesn’t. I can see if I were saying under no circumstances can a performer have more than one name. I’ve given many examples of sensible reasons to change a name, so as far as I’m concerned, to accuse me of being heavy-handed or unreasonable about it is inaccurate. Like anything, there must be rules. ADT...

• Porn’s Problem with Performer Names 8/25/2021 1:46:54 PM
  
  Simple Simon wrote: But isn't using a new name for an existing performer all just part of presenting such a fantasy? No. However yes, when it’s done within the scene, not on the site. I just thought about it. This reminds me of “wrestling” and something that insults my intelligence. I remember in elementary school getting into debates with other kids that believed “wrestling” is real. I kept telling them they were watching a live stunt show. I would say, “how in the world do you think that someone can jump from a turnbuckle, land on someone’s throat, and they’re still alive without any damage?” “Don’t you hear them stomp when they barely hit the person?” To show the level of insanity on this, a famous “wrestler” at the time (no, it was...

• Porn’s Problem with Performer Names 8/24/2021 2:05:43 PM
  
  For anyone that thinks this thread is pointless, don’t post in it. No one is forcing you to post here. This thread is about the incessant use of different performer names for the same person that I and many others find ridiculous. So a handful of you decide to troll and try to derail the thread by being condescending and abusive, and in spite of that, I’ve remained cordial. I’m not looking to get into a pissing contest like a handful of you here appear to be. What’s really striking is how a handful of you have completely ignored posts showing that even performers have said it’s an issue, and it’s also been pointed out that there have been lawsuits about performers' names.

• Porn’s Problem with Performer Names 8/24/2021 1:57:49 PM
  
  Simple Simon wrote: Jordan1 wrote: What's unnecessary and annoying is a site that tries to fool viewers into believing that the performers are regular people, or they havent shot videos elsewhere When a female in porn says 'I've never done something like this before', don't take it too seriously. It's all part of the performance. No, I dont LOL. I have no problem with fantasy, like sites that pick up people, etc. Its when the site starts playing games with the performers' names. Changing it, no name, or the same name for different people. As Ive stated before, an example of an acceptable change is to add Mistress to their name if its a BDSM site.

• Porn’s Problem with Performer Names 8/23/2021 2:37:12 PM
  
  shalalin wrote: Let me try to explain in very, very simple words just for you, then: New boobs first. New name second. Absence of scenes involving old boobs + new name = inevitable, not "one crazy-ass coincidence". Or maybe I should put it directly in timeline form, since the above may still be too complex to grasp: 1) Old boobs, old name -> 2) New boobs, old name -> 3) New boobs, new name You're welcome. (Post edited to trim quotes to the necessary minimum.) Edited by - shalalin on 8/22/2021 8:54:23 PM If you reread my statements, it should become clear as to why I made that comment..."I wasn’t aware there was a lawsuit. If she has never made a video with her natural breasts as Katsuni, that’s one crazy-ass coincidence!" As far I...

• Porn’s Problem with Performer Names 8/23/2021 1:55:17 PM
  
  hoochimama wrote: Jordan1 wrote: hoochimama wrote: At <link> the girls just have numbers. At <link> nobody is named. Absolutely ridiculous. These are the sorts of sites that are begging not to be patronized. Maybe not for some people, but for me, pretending (NOT FANTASY) that the performers are just regular people by not including names is insulting. These sorts of games are unnecessary. ...pretty sure the RGGB party girls are "regular people" as opposed to named pornstars. It's as close to girl next door porn as you can get. What purpose would it serve to come up with performer names for the dozens/hundreds of chicks in a single one of those scenes when you won't see them in anything else and many of them you only see for a few seconds? ...

• Porn’s Problem with Performer Names 8/23/2021 1:50:14 PM
  
  Offwac wrote: Jordan1 wrote: I’m scratching my head on that one. To me, it is totally insane for someone to show their face on camera, and then have the attitude that they don’t want anyone to see them/know who they are whether it’s for a minute or forever. Once you take that plunge, it’s inevitable that once it’s posted, it’s going to be in the possession of hundreds if not thousands of people. So that line of thinking is absurd. If they decide to wear a mask and hide body identifiers, that makes more sense. But of course, it’s much harder to generate the same amount of followers as performers that show their faces, especially if they’re female. That's not what I said at all. It's not that they don't want to be identified. It's that ...

• Porn’s Problem with Performer Names 8/21/2021 1:14:13 PM
  
  hoochimama wrote: At <link> the girls just have numbers. At <link> nobody is named. Edited by - hoochimama on 8/20/2021 7:55:54 AM Absolutely ridiculous. These are the sorts of sites that are begging not to be patronized. Maybe not for some people, but for me, pretending (NOT FANTASY) that the performers are just regular people by not including names is insulting. These sorts of games are unnecessary.

• Porn’s Problem with Performer Names 8/21/2021 1:00:14 PM
  
  Offwac wrote: For example, some sites might assign the name 'Alice' with no last name for 3 or more different performers. Why in the hell would any sane person do that? That generally happens on sites where a lot of the girls are one (or just a few) and done. The girls aren't planning on setting up a "Brand" for a long career. The studio isn't going to bother to set up a totally unique and eternal identifier for some girl that no one is going to bother to search for because she did porn for all of three days before going back home. A good proportion of the women in porn are in it for the very short term. They have no interest in your need to have a system that has them permanently affixed with a single label on all sites even decades afte...

• Porn’s Problem with Performer Names 8/21/2021 12:52:13 PM
  
  T-Bone the Disco Spider wrote: ^ I hired an old guy named Columbo to investigate this case and here's what he said happened..... In January of 2006 you were a young raincoater bustin' your first nut to French/Vietnamese sensation Katsumi, a natural breasted beauty. Then in May 2006, tragedy struck! France's favorite porn star got breast implants. You noticed this immediately because she shot about a film a week that year (which means that there are TWENTY FIVE "Katsumi" films with breast implants). Feeling betrayed you swore you would never watch another "Katsumi" film again. But it was not to be! In January 2007, a French court handed down their decision, forcing her to change her stage name. Later on that same year you walked into your ...

• Porn’s Problem with Performer Names 8/19/2021 1:07:47 PM
  
  shalalin wrote: Jordan1 wrote: killbillvol69 wrote: ^ Not that it's germane to this conversation, but the Katsumi/Katsuni change was because there was a woman named Mary Katsumi who sued our Katsumi and forced her to change her name. It wasn't about the implants. Implants came in May 2006, legal actions came in early 2007. Wow! That’s shocking! As far as I remember, all of her scenes with the name Katsumi are with her natural breasts, and the implants Katsuni. I’ve never seen a video with her natural breasts under the name Katsuni. Granted I’ve only seen about 5 videos of hers as Katsuni since I prefer natural breasts over implants. However, I believe I saw at least the first two she made as Katsuni (she had implants) and why I made th...

• Porn’s Problem with Performer Names 8/19/2021 1:00:48 PM
  
  Simple Simon wrote: ^ But don't you think that with the internet now it's quite easy to find different names a performer has used/been-given? No, not really. And even if it were relatively easy, it’s still ridiculous for sites and companies to change a performer’s name just for the sake of some jaded belief of exclusivity. The only acceptable exception I can think of at the moment is if it’s a BDSM site and for example, a female uses the name 'Mistress' and then her name. And the really stupid thing, to have the same name for multiple performers. For example, some sites might assign the name 'Alice' with no last name for 3 or more different performers. Why in the hell would any sane person do that?

• Porn’s Problem with Performer Names 8/17/2021 1:20:32 PM
  
  killbillvol69 wrote: ^ Not that it's germane to this conversation, but the Katsumi/Katsuni change was because there was a woman named Mary Katsumi who sued our Katsumi and forced her to change her name. It wasn't about the implants. Implants came in May 2006, legal actions came in early 2007. Wow! That’s shocking! As far as I remember, all of her scenes with the name Katsumi are with her natural breasts, and the implants Katsuni. I’ve never seen a video with her natural breasts under the name Katsuni. Granted I’ve only seen about 5 videos of hers as Katsuni since I prefer natural breasts over implants. However, I believe I saw at least the first two she made as Katsuni (she had implants) and why I made the statement in my first post. ...

• Porn’s Problem with Performer Names 8/16/2021 1:17:14 PM
  
  Simple Simon wrote: Jordan1 wrote: Yes, performers sometimes change their own names, and there are a few legitimate reasons for them to do so. As I’ve stated ... one I would go along with is if a performer changes her name because she installed implants. Is this common? I remember in a movie's BTS a performer was saying she was going to have breast implants. The director told her he wasn't advising her against it, but that other performers who've had them have had to basically start their career all over again. I don't think it's common. As my first post pointed out, Katsumi changed her name to Katsuni after she had implants installed. In my opinion, when someone does that, it's basically starting over again as a reinvented "new" person....

• Porn’s Problem with Performer Names 8/16/2021 1:08:27 PM
  
  Flash wrote: I'm sure the head of the APAA will be reaching out any day now. And I'm sure they'll give you a nice salary and budget to work with too. Probably half the cost of an Ed Powers flick, at least, a year. I've been busy working on a project and have come back to see what you wrote! You’ve even ignored evidence posted showing that porn stars have said it’s an issue. You’ve come up with every excuse in the book why it can’t be fixed. I’ve stayed cordial even though some of your comments were off-board like accusing me of being misogynistic. I looked up the APAA to see what you’re talking about. I wanted to check to see if it was a porn organization like APAG, but soon found out it is not. Now you’ve gone too far. I don’t want t...

• Porn’s Problem with Performer Names 8/11/2021 1:57:59 PM
  
  T-Bone the Disco Spider wrote: I can't remember the names of any of those threads. I thought it was something simple like 'Is BangBus real' but when I do a search for BangBus, I only see one thread (which seems impossible). But I decided to do a quick Google search to see if I was thinking about another site and there's quite a few threads about it. Here's a sample... First let's take a look at the "front page of the Internet" https://www.reddit.com/r/NoStupidQuestions/comments/1wju24/nsfw_how_is_the_bang_bus_legal_are_the/ Quora seems like a good place to ask a stupid question https://www.quora.com/What-happens-to-the-random-people-who-get-tricked-into-participating-in-porn-movies And here's a guy talking about how he has lots of frie...

• Porn’s Problem with Performer Names 8/11/2021 1:54:47 PM
  
  Flash wrote: As you have pointed out, there is no one to delegate you. So you won't be delegated. You've said that you have no interest in spending the time or energy. If you, the champion of doing this won't spend the time or the money, no one else will. And thus there will be no one to ever delegate you. Nope. If several porn insiders saw this thread and said, you know what, I think he’s right. Let’s set up a meeting with other people we know in the industry. Then if they decided to delegate me to fix the problem, it could be done for a trial period to see if things improve. Flash wrote: As an aside, your "current policy" is very misogynistic in its design. Since you have opted to decide the only acceptable reasons for a female perform...

• Porn’s Problem with Performer Names 8/10/2021 4:23:17 PM
  
  Flash wrote: Report it to whom? That’s exactly part of the problem, there’s no one to report it to so that’s why I started this thread. The comment you partially quoted (that lost its context) is an analogy in response to someone saying, “Apart from you I don't see a great movement to change this practice.” Flash wrote: So, what if a performer wants to change his or her name for a reason you don't accept, does that mean they can't change it? Reading over this thread, you seem to feel you get to write the rulebook. Not necessarily. I’m giving my opinion on what things I feel are valid and ones that aren’t. I stated what they are, and most importantly, the ones that cause the most problems as the following comment I made earlier shows. “W...

• Porn’s Problem with Performer Names 8/10/2021 4:11:44 PM
  
  T-Bone the Disco Spider wrote: It's not about a specific scene. There are people on this website who think that the Bangbus is real. The whole damn site. They really think that somewhere in Miami there's a bunch of dudes just driving around the beach asking hot women to get in their van. And then they fuck her on camera and throw her out of the van (without the money). And for some reason not one of these women have ever called the cops. And the cops themselves never try a sting operation to catch these guys. Please, tell me people can’t be that damn stupid, at least in large numbers. Can you provide a link to the thread? I have to see this! I’ll join in and add my two cents on that one!