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• Why would anyone do porn? 10/30/2010 6:53:57 PM
  
  There have been a lot of posts since I last checked this thread. I checked back here, because I was thinking about this idea again after the Charlie Sheen incident. The woman involved insisted that she was not a hooker, but a porn star. But the story now seems to be that Sheen ordered her from an escort agency while dining in a private room at Daniel (Boloud) in NYC (the tasting menu there is $600 a plate). Her price for the evening was $12000, though I see nothing about her that's much more desirable than $1000 an-hour Ashley Dupre. There's definitely something interesting about the people who would get involved in this. I'm still not sure how I would make the story about a porn-star into something I'd be able to find an original take on...

• Why would anyone do porn? 6/9/2010 1:42:20 AM
  
  charn wrote: I've seen Khan Tusion mentioned a few times as one of the more abusive directors in porn. But how does he operate like that? Does he pay a premium? Brandon quotes him suggesting that his fame and renown makes him a "safe" person to go to for experimenting with rough sex. It seems like some people are really committed to the idea that the girls are into it, and other people are committed to the idea that it's coercive. I think the truth might be a little bit more complicated and interesting. I kind of like the idea of sort of one of these extreme porn directors operating under a kind of cowboy moral code. I mean, people have made mobsters sympathetic by relating to them on their own terms. I think these sort of outla...

• Why would anyone do porn? 6/4/2010 11:25:29 AM
  
  fotomatt wrote: As an aside to an earlier post about guys shelling out big bucks at the clubs, that's absolutely true. About 14 years ago, my wife got a job as a secretary through a temp agency and was placed at a very large and well known accounting firm. These guys she worked for billed something like $300 an hour and more. They traveled a lot and would take their clients to strip clubs all the time. The kicker is that they would turn in receipts from these places to get reimbursed for their expenses. She said they would routinely turn in receipts for $30,000 for a night. They didn't seem to care that their secretaries knew and the company never objected. As long as the clients were happy. It was a sort of don't ask don't tell policy. Th...

• Why would anyone do porn? 6/1/2010 4:55:19 PM
  
  Whether this is just a troll who has chosen a particularly verbose way to put down porn performers, or someone who really is writing a mystery novel (in which case: ass-end of the literary world, meet ass-end of the cinematic world), I'm not sure. But if the latter, it seems obvious that he/she has already settled on a cliched "desperate girl tricked/forced into doing porn" angle, and is just fishing around here for stories in that vein. First of all, it's not the "ass end" of the literary world. Some mystery writers do write potboiler/drugstore fiction or cozy series for mass market paperback. But there's high-end and low end, same with other commercial genres. But a lot of very serious literary authors use the genre f...

• Why would anyone do porn? 5/31/2010 2:18:38 AM
  
  Brandon Iron wrote: There are ALWAYS opportunities. Whether they suit one's tastes or boundaries is another matter entirely. I met one young lady who had 2 job offers for summer employment (she was attending college): 1. She had already been hired to be a lifeguard at her local swimming pool; or 2. She was recruited on myspace to do nude modeling. She chose to do modeling for the summer....and she came back the following summer, too. If you look for victims, you will find them. If you look for adults making adult decisions, you will find them, too. I think that's a fair point. And, as I said, I'm not trying to condemn anything, I'm trying to get inside somebody's head and understand what motivates them and why they make the choices they ma...

• Why would anyone do porn? 5/30/2010 3:47:51 PM
  
  Brandon Iron wrote: In my experience, there are a lot of "here and now" transactions offered to new talent. If you are new to the city and are trying to do the rounds, make contacts, and get on your feet, you take opportunities that are offered here and now. New models meet a lot of people in the first few weeks and opportunities are thrown at them. If you have nothing better to do and would rather earn a paycheck than go to the beach, you give things a try. Sometime there is chemistry. Others, not so much. How much "chemistry" do people have waiting tables? Khan Tusion put it eloquently: "Most girls want to go on a roller coaster ride. They know they are going to be safe but it's the thrill of the ride that they f...

• Why would anyone do porn? 5/30/2010 3:46:49 PM
  
  Cuddly Wombat wrote: As noted above, the girls that charge thousands for the rich guys are usually the very same that charge $300 to $500 for the average businessman. It is very difficult to maintain regular clients from the big end of town - and it is very time-consuming to develop such clients in the first place. A smart working girl will have a high turnover of $300 to $500 clients and a few regular steady $3,000 clients. Okay. I'll take your word for it. Maybe there's a good short story about a hedge fund manager who thinks he's James Bond until he finds out that the mysterious, glamorous call girl he pays five grand a night is blowing chubby, balding convention-goers from the Midwest for 300 bucks a turn, and not even making them take...

• Why would anyone do porn? 5/29/2010 11:35:50 PM
  
  WardqueenJanine wrote: To think that those clients who patronize women in the above range are in the lower strata of society is outright incorrect. A lot of these men are very successful professionals who are cognizant of the overcharging and are simply familar with what they can get by shopping around. As far as the women go, it is even more incorrect to characterized those who charge these rates as undereducated, too old for mainstream, afflicted with drug or other substance problems or affliated with organized crime. Those are stereotypes that are akin to urbnan legends and despite that there are girls with the issues you describe, I can say from many years of experience, that both the rates and the income of the girls have absolutely ...

• Why would anyone do porn? 5/29/2010 10:53:26 PM
  
  Pete Zaface wrote: Now, as to why girls do porn. I don't think economic desperation is as common a reason as you might think, nor do I think girls are tricked into doing porn after answering ads for modeling. The reasons are as varied as the girls. Some do it because they can do things on a porn set, in a controlled environment, that would be difficult, if not impossible to do and feel safe in the real world: DPs, DPPs, DAPs, blowbangs, gangbangs, etc. Some do it for the money, at least until the next flavor of the month comes along. Some do it to shock or rebel against their families and friends: Doing porn can be a pretty big "fuck you" to a lot of people with whom you've associated in your young life. Some do it to enhance the...

• Why would anyone do porn? 5/29/2010 6:54:35 PM
  
  Chloe, Appreciate the reply, and your candor. I'm glad you're happy and I hope things continue to go well for you. However, based on what I would have originally assumed about the life of a porn star, what you're telling me is pretty surprising. You're performing what I would consider to be extreme sex acts and yet, despite having very few inhibitions and apparently being enthusiastic, you're only working once or twice a week and making much less money than you could as a stripper. I would think it would take a lot of money to entice people to do these things. And the work seems very unreliable; what happens to you if you start getting less work? Just surfing around this forum, and looking at a couple of blogs, it seems like women who do th...

• Why would anyone do porn? 5/29/2010 4:08:26 PM
  
  I write mystery novels, and I am working on a project set against the backdrop of the high-end nightclub scene, which has become a sort of mass-media fascination because of Tiger Woods and David Boreanaz. The book is about a small-scale financial crook that gets roped into working as a confidential informant for an ambitious federal prosecutor who is fishing for a headline-grabbing criminal case among the private-jet class. Since the story, to some extent, is about how powerful men in the financial industry find hookups, the financial crisis is also part of the narrative. I was considering including a porn-related subplot, because porn's rocky economic road during the recession seems to fit some of the themes, and because everyone looks at ...