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• anyone creeped out wth the 18 y/o and BL stuff 12/27/2009 1:44:46 PM
  
  warrenwest67 wrote: kellydivine wrote: LMAO, sorry just want to share this cause I thought it was sick yet funny ..... maybe more sick.... So this girl was shooting a scene at my house for her website and she's definitely got a super young girl look, and she is young, LOL. Obviously the barely legal stuff is her niche and when you shoot soooo much of the same kind of scenes you pick up on certain things that directors/fans like that compliment the niche. In her case she plays up the young girl thing. During the scene she moved into almost a fetal position while being fucked and then said things like "fuck me in the fetal position, fuck this fetus". I mean ewww but LMAO. It made me of course wonder, did a director once tell her th...

• anyone creeped out wth the 18 y/o and BL stuff 12/27/2009 1:30:43 PM
  
  seedfeeder wrote: williamtheb wrote: Hey I'm British if I want to pimp someone I'll damn-well pimp 'em! Furthermore As for my abyssmal spelling, I'll shove an "H" anywhere I damn-well choose thank you ("I refer the ..gentleman to the reply I gave some moments ago"). He was our problem, what some semi-educated colonial would know I...nah can't stay angry with you too long...just go sit on the naughty step there's a good fascist. Edited by - Williamtheb on 12/18/2009 2:04:16 PM Edited by - Williamtheb on 12/18/2009 2:05:34 PM Don't know what I'm crowing about Ben Dover just hung up his posing pouch and he was easily the best Brit director (n.b which ain't saying much). Edited by - Williamtheb on 12/18/2009 2:15:10 PM List...

• anyone creeped out wth the 18 y/o and BL stuff 12/18/2009 2:00:50 PM
  
  seedfeeder wrote: williamtheb wrote: Man..if you guys think everyone out there can make their employment choices free of duress you are clearly up your own arseholes. Look, is porn really only an industry or does it/can it act as a liberalising force within society? If sexual freedom is essentially what we are after then all duress should be removed from the system. As for saying that I am against the portrayal of forced, sex, BDSM etc. what rubbish! However a sense of social responsibility dictates that the true nature of the act should not be obscurred by those who would like to hide behind the camera (and their own dicks) and pretend for the sake of filthy lucre that what ain't is! You dig? I stand by my statements and don't see that an...

• anyone creeped out wth the 18 y/o and BL stuff 12/16/2009 3:54:53 PM
  
  seedfeeder wrote: williamtheb wrote: What bothers me is that they may be being forced into something financially. Also I do think it is dangerous for companies and sites to present consentual B.D.S.M or just rough sex as if it were not consentual, with the selling point being that it kinda' may not be and as Gahndi said "Poverty is the worst form of violence." Portrayal of the sex act should always be based on transparent consent, nothing else will do. It is true however that if the age of consent is 16 (and it should be) even making an 18 only rule can seem like preaching (what if a sixteen year old flogs pictures of himself and his girlfriend together for instance? How can you say "Oh, that's wrong?"), what young peo...

• best DP scenes 12/11/2009 10:39:19 PM
  
  No one here has mentioned this yet (and neither have I -specifically- on my thread "Art for Art's Sake, Money for F**ks Sake") but simultaneous or "double" internals are rare (if not virtually unknown) unless you check out "Heather's" which is kinda TOO extreme/gross-out. Is there a streak of puritanism running through American "liberalism" we can't usually see because it's too well hidden? Edited by - Williamtheb on 12/11/2009 10:40:43 PM Edited by - Williamtheb on 12/11/2009 10:43:31 PM

• anyone creeped out wth the 18 y/o and BL stuff 12/9/2009 9:05:45 PM
  
  What bothers me is that they may be being forced into something financially. Also I do think it is dangerous for companies and sites to present consentual B.D.S.M or just rough sex as if it were not consentual, with the selling point being that it kinda' may not be and as Gahndi said "Poverty is the worst form of violence." Portrayal of the sex act should always be based on transparent consent, nothing else will do. It is true however that if the age of consent is 16 (and it should be) even making an 18 only rule can seem like preaching (what if a sixteen year old flogs pictures of himself and his girlfriend together for instance? How can you say "Oh, that's wrong?"), what young people do is up to them (unless you want ...

• best DP scenes 12/6/2009 8:54:20 PM
  
  Yeah, but who does D.P internals? You know it suprises me sometimes that U,S porn isn't actually harder than it is (not the I'm suggesting everyone should go out and get infected). U.K producers don't really know asses from elbows but at least we're not like the Germans (how to be truly weird, like Heather's you wonder...why?). Edited by - Williamtheb on 12/6/2009 8:57:04 PM Edited by - Williamtheb on 12/6/2009 8:57:22 PM

• Art for Art's Sake, Money for Fuck 12/6/2009 4:05:11 PM
  
  But if Porn can't be art what the hell are we doing? The relationship between the participants and the camera (and therefore it's audience) is the central issue. Who controls that camera? It has to be the performers, sure they must oblige the audience, however ultimately it must be them who has the executive power. Engaging in sex acts because you have been forced economically so to do should be anathema to good porn.* Eros Edited by - Williamtheb on 12/6/2009 4:05:50 PM *To the memory of Jim Morrison. Edited by - Williamtheb on 12/6/2009 4:08:33 PM Edited by - Williamtheb on 12/6/2009 4:09:33 PM P.S I'm sorry "In Flagrante" may be over-exposed but he is right! Don't delude yourselves. ..but by no means all porn is artless (or w...

• Art for Art's Sake, Money for Fuck 10/28/2009 12:46:55 PM
  
  Was "New Whores" Kissy Kapri's first performance? So good they'll use her up, some would say she had a calling... Yeah and that movie may have had "Love" in the title like "Lieber ...and The Devil" or something (sure it was German). It seems Kissy was working in a burger bar for the minimum wage (do you guys actually have one there now?). I doubt she thinks she ruined her life moving into movies. She has what was once famously termed "The Divine Gift of Lechery", one hopes she will not be used/use herself up. The body needs to be cared for or it will be exhausted by its own appetites n'est pas? You know part of this imbalance actually stems from a lack of celebration of the male (not female) form? Al...

• Art for Art's Sake, Money for Fuck 9/28/2009 4:14:34 PM
  
  Yeah and it's the misogynism that makes it unsafe too. Double anal penetration is gay porn guys..... Got to realise that it is the chick's scene too (in the broadest sense) as long as we keep it that way everyone is happy. The point is to "push the envelope" but as true S&M devotees will tell you it is the psychological journey that is more important. The kind of scenes where a certain level of intimacy are achieved are always better. The remoteness of the fabled "Money Shot" is indicative of the remoteness of the viewer to the action (in all senses), appearance it seems, is all. Edited by - Williamtheb on 9/28/2009 4:19:51 PM Edited by - Williamtheb on 10/29/2009 4:41:57 PM

• Art for Art's Sake, Money for Fuck 9/28/2009 8:45:38 AM
  
  No-one likes this thread. Is it because I'm British, you would tell me wouldn't you? Maybe I should start a new one "Can "Porn" be Art?"

• Art for Art's Sake, Money for Fuck 9/23/2009 8:05:38 PM
  
  Seriously guys help me here I'm looking for a title in German (I think) released well over a decade ago. The Title was "Angles and Demons" or something similar, I badly want to trace this movie (and possibly purchase). I only ever saw the clips as a trailer on VHS. any idea of a studio or archive I might trawl? Euro-porn I'm sure.

• Stars who you thought could not handle rough anal 8/9/2009 9:13:27 PM
  
  Huh..Aphrodite's Child..Venus..good show....Haley..Viccy Sin..Scarlet O'Whora.. (Diabolic you know)..strange tstes some people... P.S That Natalie....Heck!..

• Art for Art's Sake, Money for Fuck 8/9/2009 8:56:40 PM
  
  Hi guys! Thought I'd start this thread with a question..from gonzo street to studio (apart from one or two exceptions) the facial still ends the scene why? Though an amateur lover I still ask myself the question is this all "art for art's sake and money for porn's sake"? By which I mean that double internal d.p cumshots (and I mean deep internal not the disappointing semi-plugged ooze some studios specialise in) are hardly available with close-ups, multiple partner loading is still rare and good orgasms often absent (get the chick off for f**ks sake). I do believe this is partly the industries doing by it's attitude to cock generally, male pornstars are have become eunuchs by self-denial,, for goodness sake if you like double ana...

• What's the real money shot? 8/8/2009 4:43:42 PM
  
  Didn't see an edit fac. so I'm assuming you don't mind people posting to their own threads here! The search for honesty promotes integrity of performance. I used to posses a copy of a Euro/German flick (correct me if I'm wrong), which to me was arguably a work of art (as we commonly understand it),"Rocco Never Dies" is not a bad movie either niether is "Sex". If someone can tell me the name of this Bacchanalian fantasy (a costume drama with horns and devils and angels and horns...etc.etc...horns..) I would be grateful.

• What's the real money shot? 8/7/2009 3:01:59 PM
  
  Check out www.yesyesyes.org (and I might mention www.aidsbuzz.org aswel). The spectre of A.I.D.S haunts us all but I tend to think the industry creates it's own problems, honesty is the best policy n'est pas? The drive to ever younger and younger girls also uses up good performers before they have reached maturity (if nothing else a waste).

• What's the real money shot? 7/16/2009 4:34:01 PM
  
  Hi guys! Thought I'd start this thread with a question..from gonzo street to studio (apart from one or two exceptions) the facial still ends the scene why? Though an amateur lover I still ask myself the question is this all "art for art's sake and money for porn's sake"? By which I mean that double internal d.p cumshots (and I mean deep internal not the dissapointing semi-plugged ooze some studios specialise in) are hardly available with close-ups, multiple partner loading is still rare and good orgasms often absent (get the chick off for f**ks sake). I do believe this is partly the industries doing by it's atttude to cock generally, male pornstars are have become eunachs by self-denial,, for goodness sake if you like double anal ...