This Jim Steel chat was held in the Adult DVD Talk Chat Room on October 11, 2000.
Many thanks to Odyssey Group Video for making this chat possible: Odyssey Men Video Website -
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Steph: Hey Jim_Steel!! Welcome to Adult DVD Talk
Jim Steel: Hi Steph
zero: hi jim!
Jim Steel: Hey Zero - Hello room
Morrigan: hi jim
after a series of happy hellos we go into moderated mode.
Jim Steel: Warning I ama lousy speller who lives on speel check
Steph: Jim - mind if we jump right into the questions?
Jim Steel: fire away
Adult DVD Talk: How did you get into the adult movie business?
Jim Steel: an ex lover - Casey Klinger owned magazines - started working there in early 80's and from there went into video work -
first show I worked on was TOUGH COMPETITION
Adult DVD Talk: How was that?
Jim Steel: GR8 - was the first time I realized how cute and sexual some of these guys were
Adult DVD Talk: Who are your favorite stars to work with?
Jim Steel: changes when you meet new guys but some of my all time favorites - Ken Ryker - Scott Baldwin - Zak Spears - Tim Barnett - Joey Stephano
- and that is just off the top of my head - I'm sure I have left out way too many
Adult DVD Talk: Which movies are the best examples of your work?
Jim Steel: Bi Sex - MASS APPEAL - Gay -
RYKERS REVENGE -
Jim Steel: MENTOR - can't forget that one
Adult DVD Talk: Was Ooze your first all-girl movie?
Jim Steel: Yeah it was - have worked in the straight biz a long time but never as a director - always 1st AD or Production Manager
Adult DVD Talk: What are the main differences between directing a gay male film and an all-girl one? (aside from the obvious anatomic differences.)
Jim Steel: Wow - tuff question - The girls are a lot more professional than the guys - not that the guys are bad - just that the girls work so much more so they are more used to the structure
- And I love those girls!
Adult DVD Talk: the guys work a lot less than the girls?
Jim Steel: Just there are less gay than str8 vids made so yeah they do work less- also where as a girl can do a lot of vids and get a following - guys burn out with the public a lot quicker
ADT: zengirl says: do you make movies keeping in mind that there are also females who watch porn and try to cater to a more feminine viewpoint?
Jim Steel: When I shoot a boy boy vid I am trying to take really goodlooking guys and have them have HOT sex - if that interests a female viewer then yeah - but that is what I am going for
Jim Steel: When its a girl girl ABSOLUTELY - the best was the way these girls responded to me - they were all pros and they
came up to me and thanked me for the way I treated them - I gave them respect and shot them like people not sides of beef.
Adult DVD Talk: Morrigan says: Which mainstream star(s) would you like to work with?
Jim Steel: Girls - Parker Posey - Gena Davis - Lilly Taylor - Guys - Brad Pitt (big surprise) Owen Marshall(?) guy in Armageddon - Steven Dorff
Adult DVD Talk: hugh says: In your opinion, why has it taken so long for some of the major gay studios to get on the DVD bandwagon?
Jim Steel: Good question - give me a sec on that
Jim Steel: I know in the case of the company I am involved with now - they wanted to give you more than just a VHS tape transferred to DVD - We give you footage from Behind The Scnes - extra sex stuff and interviews - but until we made the decision to go - couldn't release - I love porn on DVD
Adult DVD Talk: Do you work exclusively for OGV?
Jim Steel: no - I also do work on Vivid Video productions (luv those Vivid girls) and some free lance here and there
Jim Steel: OMV keeps me real busy though
Adult DVD Talk: [The Standard Adult DVD Talk Question] If you were crowned Emperor of Porn for a day, what would you change about the industry?
Jim Steel: The way that gay and str8 don't get along -
Adult DVD Talk: are the two antagonistic? (forgive my political ignorance)
Jim Steel: when casting the Bi vid MASS APPEAL - girls were afraid to do it because it could damage them in the str8 side - STUPID - and I know a lot of the guys in the str8 and they are cool as hell - they aren't the ones who have the problem
Jim Steel: we are all in the sex biz - lets act like adults
Adult DVD Talk: what about on the business side?
Jim Steel: Would run every cheap fuck company that doesn't care about the consumers and only wants to make a quick buck at the expense of the industry out of biz - If I were the king for a day.
Sad thing is the consumer doesn't realize that a good box doesn't make a goood product on the inside
Adult DVD Talk: How do you feel about the use of condoms?
Jim Steel: I feel there is nothing to discuss - Until they have a cure if you see a cock going in a hole IT SHOULD HAVE A CONDOM ON IT
Adult DVD Talk: hugh says: Are the top gay performers compensated as well as the top female straight stars? (Everyone knows straight male porn stars don't make much money.)
Jim Steel: The really big guys do well - but it is an elite few that do -
Jim Steel: The girls make a lot of bank off dancing though and for guys the only equivalent is hustling
Adult DVD Talk: What are you working on now?
Jim Steel: The return of Zak Spears, a vid I co directed with Chi Chi Larue is in post - a new chicken vid starts shooting on Friday - Then the sequel to OOZE -
along with a bi sex vid and a dark vid I am still writing
Adult DVD Talk: excuse my ignorance but what's a chicken vid? and a dark vid?
Jim Steel: Chicken is term for young 18-20 yr old guys video - dark means that I am writing a vid which the lead is dealing with the conflict of his dom vs. sub side
Adult DVD Talk: ahhh thanks :)
Adult DVD Talk: How involved are you in the editing process? How about the DVD extras?
Jim Steel: Editing I have to sign off on each project and I go over all the raw footage with the editor - on a show like OOZE I actually edited it myself with a guy named Drew. As far as the DVD footage - if it is Gay product from OGV I am the one who shoots it - interviews the guys all of it - Farron and I meet b4 each shoot to decide what he needs themn I get it for him
Adult DVD Talk: Darkmage says: Jim, one of the things I see in some videos is some looping of content. Do you have any insights on why director's do this? Do you include this technique in your movies?
Jim Steel: There are two reasons that it happens - 1- the shot is so good that it merits being seen again - 2 - there isn't enuugh good footage so they have to loop - yes I have done it - sometimes its good sometimes its not
Adult DVD Talk: Jim_Steel we're opening up the chat room so everyone can talk freely
Jim Steel: Kweell
and the room is now open...
Darkmage: Jim, let me thank you for coming to talk to us here at ADT. It really means a lot to us that you would take the time to chat with your audience.
Jim Steel: my pleasure this is fun
everlast: Jim - what’s the first porn movie you ever saw?
Darkmage: Now, forgive me if this was asked before I wandered in (sorry, the debates were on) but are there significant differences in the way you shoot a gay vid vs. a straight video?
Jim Steel: not a huge difference in the way I shoot - just want to see all the action as best we can
Morrigan: What was the first gay porn you ever saw?
Jim Steel: Falcon vid starring that cute blond Kurt Marshall - was high at the baths have never forgotten that
can't recall the name of the vid though
everlast: how old were you?
Jim Steel: when I saw the vid - 21
Steph: you didn't see a porn movie until 21???
Darkmage: You were 21 when you saw your first porn movie? Interesting. Much later than I would have suspected.
Darkmage: If you don't mind me asking (feel free to tell me to piss off), how old are you?
Morrigan: wow! You're much better than the rest of us
Jim Steel: there wasn't video back then you guys
cbear: that makes sense :)
hugh: Can you recommend any good twinkie DVDs?
Jim Steel: Something Very Big -
or new one American Way
zero: whats your favorite mainstream movie?
Jim Steel: Maltese FAlcon - watch it at least once a week
Jim Steel: also real hot on new DVD realease Shanh Hi Noon
everlast: Are there a lot of straight guys performing in gay porn? Are they much harder to direct?
Jim Steel: Yeah alot of guys do it for the $ - some are easier than others - some of my fav guys to work with are "str8"
everlast: how come?
Jim Steel: because some of them are just into the sex - don't want to fall in love just like the sex - like that in a guy - and it shows in thier work
Morrigan: ah, no baggage
everlast: some guys want to fall in love on the set?
Darkmage: Are there performers who are attempting to fall in love? Kind of a weird place to do it, IMHO.
Jim Steel: THANK YOU
Darkmage: Specifically, are they in the business to find someone to fall in love with?
Jim Steel: no they just come onto the set with delusions
cbear: even if they weren't, you could see how it could become a soap opera easily
Jim Steel: believe me every production is a soap
cbear: hehe i bet
Morrigan: must be interesting to stand back and watch
cbear: there's some extra footage for a dvd :)
Jim Steel: not really standing back and watching - am trying to get them to do certain things that I think you guys want to see
Steph: do you get much feedback from fans to know what they want to see?
Jim Steel: lets say that it can be quite interesting telling a guy to fuck him harder when the btm is a guy who is living with you - many stories along those lines
Jim Steel: or the couple that will only work together who get into a fight right b4 you start to film
Morrigan: oh, dear
Darkmage: Hah! Do you have difficulty separating your private relationships with the performances you are trying to extract?
everlast: so you date the stars?
cbear: sounds like fun
Jim Steel: try to listen to the fans but so many only want to see their fantasies lived out - am trying to appeal to many people in one vid
Jim Steel: Haven't dated lately - makes for more prob than its worth
cbear: that's too bad
everlast: but you used to date guys you worked with?
Jim Steel: Hard to go out and meet someone when you have what is supposed to be the ideal males in front of you having sex
Darkmage: Ever have someone try to date you just to get into one of your movies?
Jim Steel: Oh yeah - it's funnny when a guy who is 21 thinks that they are smarter than you and you won't see through them -
Steph: but you know they're not the ideal men
Morrigan: yeah, beauty IS only skin deep
Steph: biceps and big dick don't make for perfect man
cbear: they don't? j/king :)
Jim Steel: Agreed but it does skew how you look at guys when you go out
Steph: do you like the beefcakey type guy?
Jim Steel: especially since I know I don't look like a porn star
Jim Steel: like gdlk guys - don't have a specific type - think as you get older you can appreciate a lot more types of looks
Steph: what's the funniest thing that ever happened on a set??
Jim Steel: Been on location for over a week with a cast and crew of 14 people - during the week had endured a fire - an epileptic fit - sinking of a boat and general mutiny by all the people and had not lost my temper - on the last day - this moron who had caused me to get sun poisening - questioned my abilities to a group of guys when he didn't realize that there was a mike with them
Jim Steel: I flew almost a hundred yards in the air - had my hands around his throat and would have killed him if I hadn't been pulled off - now when I look back it was very funny
Steph: too bad you don't have that on film ;)
Jim Steel: Have never gone on extended location shoots since
Darkmage: The boat sank? What were you doing to it?
Morrigan: do we want to know? snicker
Jim Steel: Our experienced captain ran it into rocks on Lake Mead - quite dramtic actually - we all had a good laugh on that one
Morrigan: I have vacations like that, Jim
Jim Steel: Was my first like it and knock wood my last
Steph: but did the movie come out good?
Jim Steel: A video called The RIVER starring Joey Stefano
Jim Steel: got good reviews - so I guess that is all that is important
Steph: is it on DVD?
Jim Steel: don't know - it was when I worked exclusively with Vivid - don't follow their gay line anymore
joeblow: I remember The River...
Darkmage: Joeblow, What did you think?
joeblow: The first time I ever snuck into an adult section of a video store, that was the only gay video they had.
I was too shy to rent it. Don't have that problem anymore :)
Jim Steel: it's from Vivid so you can probally buy it now for 6.99
zero: do you think the low prices cheapen your work?
Jim Steel: Hell yes it does - used to feel like Bette Midler in Ruthless People - I've been marked down
Jim Steel: So what do you guys who watch these vids want to see
Darkmage: Is there any aspect of DVD production that you are not involved with but wish you were?
joeblow: Jim, sorry if this has been asked, but when you put out a DVD, do you compare the visual quality with that of other company's DVDs? I know of a certain unnamed company that supposivly has great movies, but really crappy dvd transfers
joeblow: cough * Centaur * cough
Jim Steel: No - think that it is an area that requires a full time person to oversee - would rather they tell me what I want and I give it to them
Jim Steel: I don't compare them no - The work that is currently being transfered is by Farron and I am sure that they are the best that they can be
Jim Steel: I make videos - I don't claim to know everything that the DVD market wants - so let a person who that is what they do - market DVD and keep their finger on that pulse tell me the additional footage that they think you all want to see
Darkmage: Oh, you want a list of desired extras? No problem!
Steph: behind the scenes - interviews - anything candid
Jim Steel: Centaur - proof that $ doesn't buy quality
Jim Steel: all things that we are offering on the OGV DVD's
hugh: I would like to see anything that gives insight into who the actors are as people. Candid behind the scenes footage is best
Darkmage: Commentary tracks, bios, behind the scenes, FMV menus...
joeblow: My favorite part of porn is the initial insertion shot... I love to see some tight hole getting stretched. Some many times movies go straight from sucking to fucking.
I feel cheated if I don't see the insertion!
Darkmage: Good point. I second joeblow's request.
zero: i third it
joeblow: don't forget to include some nice fingering first!
Jim Steel: I record commentary tracks on all my vids now - as far as insight into the actors - just realize that these guys are creating a illusion for you guys - sometimes you might not want that 4th wall broken
Jim Steel: LOVE FINGERING
- check out - Ivy League from Vivid - Brian Yates hole is OPENED UP
Darkmage: It doesn't have to be all about the actors. What can you tell us about the location, the production problems/solutions, costumes, music selection...
joeblow: And how come is it there are a ton of straight films with gaping anuses and you never see that in gay films?
if you do it is almost by accident
Jim Steel: because a lot of guys don't want to be seen like that - that is one reason - in fact years ago Jon Vincent beat the shit out of a director who shot his ass
joeblow: that's a shame... a man with a nicely used ass is a beauty to see
Jim Steel: make no mistake he was a gr8 guy - just didn't want his butt shot
everlast: are you doing any more movies with ken ryker?
Jim Steel: Have two on the books a gay and a Bi
Jim Steel: I agree - usually see it in vids where it is the guys first time and doesn't know better - ie Rex Chandler in the vid Cocktales - he was open wide in that
Darkmage: "doesn't know better" ?!? Care to expand (cough) on that? What are you looking for?
joeblow: well, next time some one gives you guff about not wanting to show their hole, remind them of all the perverts they will be making happy
Jim Steel: will do!
everlast: what are the titles?
Jim Steel: no title on the Bi yet the gay is called - can't recall right now - script is done on it though
joeblow: so what's next on your plate, Jim?
Darkmage: Doogie, we're still going. You missed the moderated part, though.
Jim Steel: young guy video next with first time director Chad Donovan
joeblow: make sure you sneak some gaping holes in there ;)
Jim Steel: Will do my best -
Darkmage: If Mr. Donovan is doing the directing, what is your role exactly?
Jim Steel: producing it and showing him the ropes - he has never worked behind the camera before
joeblow: does porn get you off anymore? or have you see so much that it is like watching sesame street?
lunacy: joeblow-that's a good question, I have always wondered that too
Darkmage: (singing) Can you tell me how to get... how to get to Porno Street...
Jim Steel: Hell yes i still get into it - just that like you guys there are certain things that I like to see
joeblow: what is it that turns you on the most?
Jim Steel: good looking All American types - turned into sex pigs because they are so into what is happening - if you look carefully you can tell when it happens and I love to see that
Darkmage: Do you have problems with talent getting jaded to the business too quickly?
Steph: Sex Pigs would be a great title
joeblow: Sex ... Pigs in Space!
Jim Steel: Has been used
Jim Steel: In Space - sounds like a Thor Stephens production - YIKES
joeblow: I was thinking more of a muppets theme
Morrigan: Pleasure piggies of porn...
Jim Steel: if they were camping would that make them Pigs in a Blanket?
Darkmage: "This little piggie gave blow jobs..." "This little piggie ate cum..."
joeblow: Sorry I missed the first hour, but did someone mention how the shaved look is sooo over? We need more naturally hairy guys in porn
Jim Steel: I agree - you will notice that that is cuming back too
Steph: i think natural as a whole is coming back
Jim Steel: Agreed
Jim Steel: and don't know about all of you but I have had enough of the multiple tatoos - piercings - and multi earrings as well
Morrigan: oh, we've definitely had enough of that, JIm
joeblow: sounds great Jim... you just need to pick them up right off the farm ... au natural
Darkmage: <sarcasm>What? You don't like stars with so much metal sticking through their skin that when they are at rest, they point north?</sarcasm>
Jim Steel: no problem with A tat - it is the whole body coverage that is real 90's to me
joeblow: although... prince alberts do fascinate me
lunacy: eeesch! i dated a TV once w/ one of those
Morrigan: what the hell is a prince albert?
lunacy: M-a penis piercing
joeblow: would love to see a close up cum shot of a big dick with a prince albert. I was always wondering if the cum goes out both holes or not
Jim Steel: every one seems to be so gung ho on the Europen vids - They don't have live sound - personally HATE that - if you don't hear them fuck as well as se them it just ain't right
Jim Steel: check out the vid Naked Hwy joeblow - you will get your anwser
joeblow: jim, are there any pics of you on the internet ?
Jim Steel: what did you all think of Tom Chase btm 4 Mike Barnson in California Kings from Falcon?
Steph: joeblow there's a semblance of one on our homepage
Jim Steel: there are some around
Darkmage: Some of them are even taken with his knowledge. :)
Steph: Jim_Steel i haven't seen a bi vid yet - any recs on where i should start? also has to be on DVD cause i hate VHS
Jim Steel: Stand by for the release of MASS APPEAL - GR8 DVD coming from OGV starring Ken Ryker
Jim Steel: lol Darkmage
joeblow: Does Ken employ the choke and shove technique in that movie?
Steph: i think i can wait :)
Jim Steel: nope - was way into it
Darkmage: "Choke and shove"??
joeblow: you know ... when you have wood problems, you choke the root and shove it in
Jim Steel: seems joeblow is fimiliar with the biz-
Jim Steel: hate that when it happens - in this day and age no excuse for it
joeblow: you mean with viagra?
Jim Steel: exactly
Darkmage: Do you think there is an emerging problem in the industry with performers relying on Viagra?
Jim Steel: oh yeah - now they don't even have to be into it at all and can still perform
Steph: they don't have trouble cumming on viagra?
Jim Steel: some do some don't - never taken it myself so don't know about all the side effects
joeblow: what do you think about movie clips and pictures from your movies being posted on the internet?
Jim Steel: tricky question with no easy (read short to compose) answer
joeblow: a know alot of sites charge for pics and mpegs from pornos without sending any of the money to the makers of the movies
Steph: it will be many years before any video on the internet even comes close to DVD
Jim Steel: DVD is definitly the way to go Steph
joeblow: are you single?
Jim Steel: You all - this has been alot of fun - but need to go and catch a late dinner
Steph: Jim_Steel Thank you sooo much for hanging out with us so long - you're always welcome here and on our forum!
lunacy: Thanks for playing Jim..:)
joeblow: don't forget the gaping HOLES!!! :)
Jim Steel: Thanx Steph for having me on
Morrigan: Bye Jim, have fun, great playing with you.
Darkmage: Jim, thanks for coming out and talking with us. Come back soon!
Jim Steel: C-ya guys
everlast: bye jim
Jim Steel: It's been such a pleasure
Jim Steel: It got late fast
More goodbyes and thanks as Jim exits the chat room. Many thanks to Jim Steel and Odyssey (especially Faron :) for making this fun, interesting chat possible.